That's kind of what I suggested above:PeteD wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:19 amThis has got me thinking: instead of trying to come up with a good measure for areal distortion and an analogous measure for angular distortion and then combining them to use as an overall distortion metric, maybe it's better to come up with a single measure that serves as a measure of areal distortion in conformal projections, a measure of angular distortion in equal-area projections and a measure of both in compromise projections.
Again, resolution-efficiency meets the definition you give: it simplifies to either an areal distortion metric or an angular distortion metric as appropriate, but it isn't simply obtained from an arbitrary weighted combination of two separate distortion metrics. Though I originally invented it as a way of judging compromise projections, and its applicability to conformal and equal-area projections was a somewhat-coincidence.Milo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:29 pmMy line of thinking is to try to come up with a metric that works well for conformal projections, try to come up with a metric that works well for equal-area projections, and then try to come up with a generalized metric that simplifies to either of the preceding two when restricted to projections in that category, but is also applicable to other projections.
Maybe. How does it behave for equal-area projections?
It seems to me that it would still be measuring the derivative of angular distortion, not angular distortion itself, which does not seem overly useful.
I agree, I was just pointing out that there are multiple options and no obvious reason to favor one over another.
That part is gotten when you average the local distortion over the mapped region (using whatever type of average you want). However, it's useful if you still have a local distortion metric that's defined independently and relates in a logical way to your global distortion metric. Especially for world maps, it's often of interest which parts of the map have the highest or lowest distortion (many world maps achieve seemingly-good shapes by pushing most of their distortion to the Pacific ocean and the poles).
Non-Mercator cylindrical projections, for example, have their standard parallel (location of zero angular distortion) remain the same regardless of whether you're using them to project the whole world or a small region. The standard parallel could even fall outside of the mapped region entirely, though that's not in general a good projection.
We're proposing a method by which "location of zero areal distortion" could be defined in a similarly map-extent-independent way (and which you would logically want to keep somewhere inside the region being projected, thus explaining why Mercator is not favorable for mapping regions that do not include the equator).
Caveat: this is true for the derivative of flation.
If you want to take the derivative of linear scale (with, as you suggest, the convention for non-conformal projections to, for each direction, measure the scale in that direction and then take the derivative in the same direction, and then average those directions), then this isn't a gradient anymore, and so that doesn't apply.
For conformal projections, of course, the distinction doesn't matter.
Good point.
Another observation: the mean of a continuous function is essentially its integral (and, for two-dimensional functions, a surface integral). So what we're doing is taking the second derivative of the projection (first to obtain the Tissot ellipses and thus flation, second to obtain the gradient of logarithmic flation), and then taking a double integral of that (since it's a surface integral)... theoretically putting us back at the same "level" of differentiation/integration as we started! However, it doesn't just give you the original projection function back, since the derivatives are taken in different directions than the integrals, and we took the logarithm between the first and second derivative while doing no such thing for the integral. Furthermore, if you wanted to generalize this concept to a measure of hypervolume distortion on projections of spheres in arbitrary dimension, you would still always take the second derivative (exactly), but the number of integrals would match the dimension of the sphere.
Still, it's a vague and handwavy argument in favor of taking the integral in the "same dimension" (i.e., not squaring) as the derivative.